013 — Rebecca Alban Hoffberger, Founder of the American Visionary Art Museum

My guest today is Rebecca Alban Hoffberger — the founder, director, and principal curator of AVAM. She is a force to be reckoned with. She exudes genius. It's hard to keep up with her rapid-fire thoughts and insights; her quotes and scientific journals; her sheer joy and wonder — but what a delight to try! She opens worlds for us to explore together.